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Our 2 Cents Pt. 1
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Feelings and Missed Moments
Speaker 1So it's not an affair for them, just talking and insinuating that they have feelings for each other.
Speaker 2But he said they were talking. They didn't say what kind of talking they were.
Speaker 1They have in text, basically, without saying the direct words, admitted that they both have feelings for each other. Okay, so you mean to tell me if I came home to you or if you found out that I have been talking to another man and I've only been talking to him via Snapchat, text message and social media, but in those messages that you have read you have seen that I have developed feelings for him. And then I physically tell you we have not been together, but I do have feelings for him. You mean to tell me you'd be like okay, well, you know, it's still not an affair.
Speaker 2That's not an affair because you have not been with him.
Speaker 1Okay, but there's been no physical problem so I can talk.
Speaker 2No, I'm not okay with you talking to him and that capacity, because you're basically courting at that point.
Speaker 1Hey everybody, Welcome back to another episode of Life After I Do. I am Anisha Ji and I'm here with my boothang.
Speaker 2Your husband.
Speaker 1My boothang husband.
Speaker 2Husband, my husband I'm your husband.
Speaker 1I am here with my husband, thank you. Let me introduce you to my husband. They know me by now, maurice.
Speaker 2Molito.
Speaker 1The Molito.
Speaker 2Gil, really, what was that, you Wallin?
Speaker 1Hi Boo, hey buddy, hey Boo, How's it?
Speaker 2going, it's going. These days are blur. I'm happy that the week is over and I get to record this with you.
Speaker 1Go ahead and tell the people where you were just saying to me just a second ago I was saying that I missed you this week. Oh no, you wasn't even saying it like that.
Speaker 2I said that I really missed you.
Speaker 1No, no, you said now I said I missed my wife and I was looking forward to spending this time with you, but you just say it like that. I needed, with the same emotion and enthusiasm.
Speaker 2What I said to you behind those doors don't need to be public.
Speaker 1No, I still need the enthusiasm. It's still here.
Speaker 2You, my wife. He was like damn, I missed you, I missed you. Oh, we missed you in more than one way. I missed you.
Speaker 1More than one way I missed you and I was like oh, thanks. I said them.
Speaker 2you know, working them 13 hour days. I said it was getting to me. I was like I just want to be home with my wife. Yeah, it was my last night. I thought I was going to cuddle with you but I ended up cuddling with my daughter because she pushed me right out the way.
Speaker 1Well, we started cuddling and everybody was in their respective places of residency, meaning their bedrooms. And when our bedroom gets a little too quiet, I guess that's when she thinks that's the time for her to make her entryway. And so when she gets to the front of the door and then she realizes that we weren't asleep, I was like Phoenix, you can go back to your room because daddy and I are talking and we're cuddling and you cannot come in right now. And she's like oh my gosh, why do you think so?
Speaker 2long she said give me my daddy.
Speaker 1And I was like I said, girlfriend, you can go lay down in your bed. She's like I don't want to lay down in my bed. I said, well, sleep in the hallway, for all I care. She was like I'll stay right here in the hallway.
Speaker 2I said go ahead, you work on it. Me and my baby. I wasn't. I was like go ahead she wanted to sit.
Speaker 1She was in the hallway and that's exactly where she sat in the hallway. I said that's fine.
Speaker 2She missed me, and she wanted to spend time with me too. It ain't always about you, all right. That's what you got to understand. It ain't always about me, any hoops. Sometimes my daughter needs me too.
Speaker 1Any hoops Now. You played my life, I played your life. Because you try to creep your way to be in the inner spoon. When I told you I wanted to be the inner spoon. And then in true right inner spoon fashion, it makes you more sleepy, knocked out. So then when you went to sleep, that's when I was like okay, now she can come in, because, like you're already, you're already asleep.
Speaker 1So then I was like you can come in and then she walks into the room and like he's asleep. So she walks into the room and she like creeps over to his side of the bed and she gives him a kiss on his forehead and she goes. Good night, daddy, I love you.
Speaker 2Oh no, I woke up and she was right under me. I said I guess I'm calling her Such a kid, she's an angel, I tell you. You was hating on her last night.
Speaker 1Whatever, how was your week? How was Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2for you, thanksgiving was good. I think we already talked about Thanksgiving. Good Thanksgiving was good. You know, this week was just a bunch of, you know, dealing with the aftermath of the sales and at work and my place of employment yeah, I got. I actually got good news yesterday. Well, it's good news for me. Not so good for them. That I'm not going to say here, but I'll tell you.
Speaker 1For who?
Speaker 2I'll tell you afterwards.
Speaker 1For your work or for For work.
Speaker 2Oh, it's good news for me.
Nostalgia and Collecting in Modern Shopping
Speaker 1Anywho, yeah, the aftermath of Thanksgiving. Honestly, I mean it was busy out in the streets but it wasn't like. It wasn't like how it used to be. I think everyone just kind of. I mean, online was probably booming, I'm sure, but like as far as being, on the streets.
Speaker 2Was it Metro? Was it Metro Boomer? What was what Metro Boomer?
Speaker 1Metro PCS.
Speaker 2Metro, never mind, oh I don't get it.
Speaker 1I thought you meant Metro PCS. Wow, how old are you?
Speaker 2How old are you, my guy? Oh, my gosh, how old are you, my guy, oh my gosh, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1Okay, that's still around, right, metro PCS, or are they just called Metro now?
Speaker 2I'm going to say you purposely wore that color lipstick on. You know you like that shit.
Speaker 1So I wear red lipstick because, for one, I like to wear red lipstick. Oh, you know, I like that For two, it makes your teeth look even wider, and then for three, it looks like I actually put an effort to do makeup today.
Speaker 2No, you know I like that shit. That's how you do it.
Speaker 1It's a new one, it's the Realistic HBS.
Speaker 2Okay, let's continue on because we're not going to cut this short, I'm looking at you and I'm ready to do some things.
Speaker 1Anywho, yes, like I was saying, it wasn't even that, it wasn't like super, super busy out in the streets, from my perspective.
Speaker 1I'm asking you, we weren't in the streets. I went out a couple of times and the couple of times that I went out it wasn't crazy. I didn't Like. Even when we were in Vegas and I went to Target, target was like that's because these prices weren't pricing, they wasn't Black Friday. But you know, I did see a video. So somebody did a comparison video for what Black Friday looked like in 2005, I think it was or 2007?
Speaker 2It was 2006.
Speaker 12006?.
Speaker 2People are flooding the game.
Speaker 1Oh my gosh, I'm a little embarrassed of humanity, I'm not. I was laughing at the back. Oh my goodness, and I remember when I used to work at Avenue and I worked at Shut up. I remember when you used to work. When I used to work, I used to work at this little clothing store called Avenue and they're still online but they don't have locations that I'm aware of. But I worked right next door to an old Navy and back then, that's when I was like Hop in Old Navy was not even over exaggerating.
Speaker 2She was an old Navy. Every day, every day, every day, my pocket was a little hurting.
Speaker 1That is not even over an exaggeration. I was at old Navy every single day, every mother, every location avenue that I worked at, with the exception of one, was always adjacent to an old Navy, and I don't know why, and that's back when old Navy's prices were like great. So anywho. I remember when I used to have to be to work at 5 am and old Navy, the Black Friday sales would start at 4 am and I would get up extra early because I worked in Pasadena.
Speaker 1Yes, I worked in Pasadena, and that's when we lived in Pomona. Yes, we lived in.
Speaker 2You got all the details, just like you worked in Pasadena.
Speaker 1Anyway, we lived in Pomona. I worked in Pasadena. Old Navy opened at 4. I had to be to work at 5 and there was always a line, so I would get up extra early, get dressed, get ready for work and try to go stand in line and get a decent spot in line, just so I could hurry up and run through to see what I can grab at the store and then hop back over to go open my own store.
Speaker 2Meanwhile back then on Black Friday, I was at work.
Speaker 1Oh, because you had to be to work super early.
Speaker 2I had to be to work at like 2 in the morning at Black Friday.
Speaker 1So, oh my gosh, but when, looking at that video and just seeing how we were all just like If you ain't never fought somebody over at TV or a toaster, are you really American? And then it made me think about remember when those Elmo, was it Elmo the Tickle Me?
Speaker 2Elmos the Tickle Me.
Speaker 1Elmos. Oh my goodness, and I was like it kind of makes me feel nostalgic.
Speaker 2So have we evolved or we just?
Speaker 1It's just online. It's just online, like when something launches, so you cussed out the queue now, when something launches and you go to click like checkout or something and it's like oh, all the items in your cart are no longer available.
Speaker 2So you cussed out the queue. So now you're mad. It's not gonna be a mad if you be mad at the queue.
Speaker 1You're right. It's like you put something in cart but it's no longer available when you go to checkout.
Speaker 2Let's just keep it real the problem with shopping today is the goddamn flippers.
Speaker 1With certain things.
Speaker 2No, with everything People out here out here flipping things to make an extra note.
Speaker 1Yeah and it can make it Okay. So for me personally, I'm a collector okay.
Speaker 2Of many things Of.
Speaker 1Not of many things, but certain things in particular. I'm a collector of cups, I collect tumblers, I collect coffee mugs.
Speaker 2I collect Stan Lee's.
Speaker 1Yes, I collect Stan Lee's and I collect.
Speaker 2Starbucks cups Okay.
Speaker 1So for those of you who know about cup collectors and you're like, oh, those people are crazy and they wait outside Starbucks and I am one of those people that's her. In case you did not know I have a very strong collection.
Speaker 2I tell you he's like babe, I need you to go with me. I said I won't be here.
Speaker 1Yes, I, depending on what launch it is. I am the person who, like I, have been at Target when they open at 8 am and I have been there since 1 am. Yes, I am that person waiting for a cup. It is going to sound absolutely ridiculous because you don't understand.
Speaker 2So it is.
Speaker 1Anywho.
Speaker 2I used to collect Funkos.
Speaker 1The Pops yes.
Speaker 2And I never even did that.
Speaker 1I mean, then are you a real collector?
Speaker 2I'm not. It ain't worth it. That's why I stopped collecting.
Speaker 1But see, that's why I mean, you've noticed, with the exception of the last Starbucks and Stan Lee collaboration. When's the last time I got up to go wait for cups? A month ago, no, it wasn't. Why are you going to cap like that? Okay, I haven't even been collecting like US cups like that for like a minute.
Speaker 2You know what you know. My concept at the time is all thrown off because these days blurting, yeah, you sound like your daughter.
Speaker 1She like she'll be referencing something from a year ago and she'll be like remember last week? I'm like no boo, that was a whole 12 months ago.
Speaker 2It was last week. It was last week to her, though.
Speaker 1Anyways. So, like I was saying yes, referring back to what you were saying about Flippers being in the cup community and the cup collecting community, the Flippers do make it like unenjoyable. They take the joy out of it, they take the hunt out of it.
Speaker 2I'm not about to pay you four times the value of what.
Speaker 1Back in the day when, before, cup collecting was a thing. I feel like all the little niche things have now become like big things because of social media and stuff. But all the things that you used to collect or like, you know when a new game would come out and you, I remember going to stand in line for you once for a new game.
Speaker 2Oh, I saw that. Oh, my God I was. Digital games have saved my life.
Speaker 1Right, but what I'm saying is is like I hate saying it like this, but back in the day that was part of the fun of it. Part of the fun of it was like hunting for it or like I'm referring to the Starbucks cups now, like walking into a Starbucks and seeing that they had a new launch and it's like, oh my gosh, starbucks got new cups and everybody.
Speaker 2You should get a job at Starbucks.
Speaker 1Babe, I did work at Starbucks.
Speaker 2No, I mean again to get your cups.
Speaker 1I don't know, although I will say, and I have always said, I have always said Starbucks. Starbucks was my favorite job, starbucks was one of the best companies I've ever worked for.
Speaker 2I don't have a favorite job my favorite job was my household chores as a kid, because all I got was a check and I got healthcare and I didn't have to pay rent. I had no bills.
Speaker 1Anywho, that was my favorite job. Anywho, it's the flippers who take the joy out of collecting is basically what I'm saying. So yes, I do agree with you.
Speaker 2Okay, we're not gonna sit here and rant.
Speaker 1I'm not ranting, I'm telling you, I'm talking to you about what we were saying.
Speaker 2Okay, but I'm just saying Anywho, you better watch that neck.
Speaker 1Anywho, back to Back to Life.
Speaker 2Now I want to hear that song. I want Aliyah, but okay.
Speaker 1Back to reality. Okay, go ahead. What are you gonna say? Wait, what Aliyah? What were you thinking about?
Speaker 2Back and forth.
Speaker 1Back, back, forth and forth, yeah that's the one.
Speaker 2Oh wow, Look at me Rookie move guys.
Speaker 1I forgot to turn my ring girl off.
Speaker 2So what we got today, babe?
Speaker 1Okay, so in honor of episode 13?.
Speaker 2I believe it's 13. Believe it's 13. It'll be more fun.
Speaker 1We wanted to have a little fun and because it seems like you guys also.
Speaker 2First of all, I always want to have fun.
Speaker 1And also because it seems like you guys really enjoy the hour two cents and our reactions to some of these reactions. We're just gonna do some reactions.
Speaker 2You can call it, phone it in, but you still get in content.
Speaker 1Goodbye. It also makes us happy too, so we're gonna hop right into it.
Speaker 2My wife liked the tea.
Speaker 1No, okay, nope. See now, before we even start you like the tea. My husband is a drama queen. No, I'm not, he is a lint liquor. What are you talking?
Speaker 2about no.
Speaker 1I'm not Okay. He is a cootie queen You're capping. He loves drama. I just be laughing.
Speaker 2Okay.
Speaker 1When it comes to the reactions and stuff. He loves drama.
Speaker 2I just be. I react to it because it's hilarious.
Speaker 1Okay, I don't like drama in my life, okay, anywho. Well, it's If somebody fighting next door.
Speaker 2I'm looking through the blinds. I'm not going out there and helping nobody, but I'm looking through the blinds. I'm gonna tell you what happened.
Speaker 1Are you gonna call the police Hell?
Speaker 2no Shit.
Speaker 1Why wouldn't you go out the police if somebody?
Speaker 2was fighting Somebody could get hurt, it could be for a legitimate reason. I don't want to break up, they could get hurt. I don't want to break up a happy home.
Speaker 1Okay, whatever what we got now. I kind of feel like some of these could be relatable, so I would really love your honest opinion about them.
Speaker 2I'm nothing but honest here.
Speaker 1Okay, so this one is titled Married and Bored.
Speaker 2Bored.
Speaker 1Okay, I'm a 30 year old female who's married to a 30 year old man. I've been married to my high school sweetheart for seven years Not familiar.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's kind of like us whatever, we are both 30.
Speaker 1With a three year old and a one year old, I love, love, love him and our life together. And he has a great dad, but in capitals.
Speaker 2Here we go.
Speaker 1I am so bored.
Speaker 2Here we go.
Speaker 1And that's exactly how she wrote it. I feel like our life is super stuck on autopilot, to put it lightly. We both work and have two small children, so I'm sure that's a part of it. Our sex life is laughing out loud. It's not that we don't have sex. You have two kids. It's that it sucks, to be quite honest, damn, and it kind of always has. I don't really know how to fix it. We're like best friends and I love him, but I feel like there's no fireworks or sparks left between us. Is that just how it is when you've been married awhile? Please say it isn't so Help.
Speaker 2You want me to go first. You want to go? First I want you to go first. Well, first I would say you guys are high school sweethearts, so you all been fucking since y'all was rapping Babe, oh, my bad.
Speaker 1Language my bad.
Speaker 2You've been doing it since you was rapping, so you don't Since you was rapping.
Speaker 1Yeah, you know, like they were. You know rapping Babe, you know the reference is King, like rapping, or?
Speaker 2whatever it is. No, anyway, you were young, right? No, what I'm saying is you guys both lack experience in that department. Right Now. I'm not saying go out there and do somebody else, but what I'm saying is for the sexual part of it, you're going to have to be had an honest conversation and you guys will have to be open and to trying different things and maybe finding different kinks or whatever, because he doesn't know that he's trash Unless you tell him he's trash. So stop lying to him, and he shouldn't lie to you either, I think, because, trust me, it don't work for nobody. Also, with the kids, you're probably both tired and don't have the energy for the put the effort in for that time, for lovey, lovey time, because I can understand when, sometimes, when you tired, like would I say you, I'm tired, I can lay here, I got, I can lay here and be an attention, but I can't, I can't be throwing your leg around.
Speaker 1Yeah, but you still end up doing so Because it's a good good. Ok, all right.
Speaker 2Anyway. So then, I don't think that you're bored, I just think that you, like, you're lacking.
Speaker 2I think life is life in the life is lacking in your, in your lacking what you're lacking the temporary excitement you get from small events. So I think what I would say is, if you guys could get some time away, have this conversation, get some time away, maybe go on vacation just you two, without the kids, because I understand what you would have with one child is hectic. So I know what you. It's probably even worse. So I would say it's it's more about. It's more about getting to a space to where you can reconnect and understand. Oh, this is why we're together in the first place, this is why I like you. This is what I was drawn to, so that that's, that's my take.
Speaker 1I think you said what you said just a second ago.
Speaker 2It's the reconnection, it is not it is not have your own reaction, it's not back off my stuff, goodbye it's not uncommon to disconnect, especially when life be life Life.
Speaker 1And you got two kids, like you said. You both work, you settled into a routine, everything is kind of the same thing every single day, day in and day out, and it's really easy to lose. Nope, I'll let you speak.
Speaker 2I know, I know it's really about it, please.
Speaker 1Goodness, gracious, yes.
Speaker 2I thought about it when you, because I've got about the routine part. As a man, we are routine base, right. So it's like, like with me, I do, I do everything the same way. I get up at the same time every morning, regardless of whether or not I work or not, I do the same thing First thing I wake up. It's a routine, it's just something. It's it's it's habit, and a lot of times, you know, we as men, we prefer our life to be on autopilot. As far as we do, we regularly do the same things over and over, because there's no, we don't like surprises. We want to be able to plan for what's ahead. So, like I said, I think if you would communicate that with your husband if you know, I'm pretty sure he cares about you he would though a wrench in this plan to do something exciting for you, sorry.
Speaker 1So now that I've lost my train of thought. Sorry, babe, you look good though.
Speaker 2For you to get that out. Yes, like I was saying it's really easy to become disconnected.
Speaker 1It's not something that is not normal. Marriages are up and down. If you're in a committed relationship with somebody, if you're in a monogamous relationship with somebody, that is perfectly normal to have forms of like disconnection, or you guys get stuck in a rut or anything like that. Now, in reference to what she was saying about their sex being trash and that it always has been, I don't here's. I can't look at it two ways.
Speaker 1First way is, if it always has been, that means you knew it was trash going into a marriage. You didn't say nothing. So I mean, you were perfectly fine with it before and I don't know what makes it a big difference now. It's probably because you have kids, and when you have kids and you're an adult and you're going through life, it's like the things that you know should be enjoyable, that you should be looking forward to, ie, having sex with your partner, hope you like, like in your mind, you're like. This should be the one thing to give me some energy and the one thing I look forward to to be like yes, this is it. And now I hear her companion.
Speaker 2She's star fishing it Um what? I hope she's not complaining, she's out here, start fishing. I don't even know what that is.
Speaker 1Star fishing means, she just lays there, she's a starfish.
Speaker 2Oh, don't knock my man.
Speaker 1I picked it down Idiot. But to that, to, to address that point about your sex life or, you know, intimate life with your husband being trash, Um, and for you guys to have been together for so long if you're high school sweetheart and you've been married for seven years, you've probably been together. Obviously you've been together for longer than that, Um. Then take that as an opportunity. Don't look at it as a negative. Take it as an opportunity to explore, have fun, like, try new things. Um, I know that for me personally. For me, what is that? Pinterest? Bye, babe.
Speaker 2For me personally.
Speaker 1Like you know, my husband is a little bit more. Like you know, my husband is the only person I've ever been with so what I do?
Speaker 2what I did put my key and locked that motherfucker Bye.
Speaker 1So it's, you know, it's, it's important, it's important to explore with your partner, and that itself can be fun and exciting and give you something to look forward to and help, maybe help get you guys like out of that rut, right, so it's not an excuse and just to say like, oh, but the sex is trash and it always has been use it as an opportunity.
Speaker 2That's not a reason Like there's also the chance that she's the only one in the rut. It may be amazing to him.
Speaker 1Right and you right you need. We don't know his perspective, so in any case you'll be perfectly fine. Ebs and flows, that's what marriage is Y'all are right. Y'all, y'all are all right.
Speaker 2Why.
Speaker 1Cause I always say Ebs and flows, yeah. So in any case, y'all, y'all are you're, you're fine, so Okay.
Speaker 2We got an X.
Speaker 1All right, so let's see Moving on.
Speaker 2I wasn't too messy.
Speaker 1Let's see. No, okay, you ready? What's the title of this one? This one's called no Desire for Sex with my Husband.
Speaker 2Damn.
Speaker 1Here we go.
Speaker 2Is this kind of episode?
Speaker 1I guess. So it's pretty normal to lose your sex drive after having kids, and it can take a while for it to bounce back. It took me three full years to get my mojo back.
Speaker 2Hold up Time out, time out.
Speaker 1Did she say three years To get her mojo back? Three years, my good. And it's not necessarily saying that she hadn't had sex in three years. It's probably saying for her to feel like she's like, like she's good and she's ready to go.
Speaker 1Anywho, toddlers are exhausting, and feeling touched out is a real thing. See, that's what she probably meant. I figured out later that one of the reasons it came back when it did is because that was right around the time I started feeling like I belong to myself again, which is a very real thing Instead of the tiny, instead of the tiny little person tiny little person who needs to take care of everyone else's lives. Giving birth also changed the way my body reacts to touch and how I got aroused, and I had a pretty easy injury, free delivery, but things just got rewired down there. So that's something that we had to address and take into consideration as we moved forward with our sex life. Okay, it's also pretty normal to lose your sex drive when you're having sex out of obligation and when your spouse makes it a huge point of conflict.
Speaker 2It's trash Sex out of obligation is just trash.
Speaker 1I'm just looking at my nose what I'm just looking at my nose.
Speaker 2I'm just looking at my nose, oh gosh.
Speaker 1Me and my spouse are desperate. Me and my spouse were desperate to try to get back on one accord. I'm finally happy that we are making our way towards amend responses.
Speaker 2Good luck. She strikes me that it's not necessarily that she doesn't want to have sex with her husband, it's just she's mentally not there, she's overstimulated and the kid is mainly the reason why. And then she also said, like she said, her body is different down there post delivery. So you know, it's like she has to discover herself all over again.
Speaker 1Okay, so, coming from a person who has given birth, your birth was birthing, too, like trauma. I remember very distinctively making a Facebook post, very distinctively making a Facebook post that said I, just I, oh, I just want to be me again, and how I missed me.
Speaker 2You said that often.
Speaker 1Yeah, but because there is like there is this whole thing that happens especially after you give birth and you it's almost essentially like you put yourself on the back burner because obviously you have to take care of a newborn, right? You taking care of a newborn, you're trying to take care of your husband, make sure your husband has everything he needs, make sure your baby has everything they need, making sure you know all the surroundings, you know everything in the house is taken care of, and stuff like that. And I feel like when it comes to postpartum, people give women such a short period of like postpartum. You know people think like, okay, it's been six weeks, it's been eight weeks, it's been a month, it's been five months, like you should be, you should be fine, like the baby's five months.
Speaker 2No, that is not that's not a thing like. I think, I think your body.
Speaker 1There's a lot of re regulating that your body has to go through not just physically. Not just physically, it's the, the mental and the hormonal. There is a lot that is involved after having children.
Speaker 2Let me ask you this so what? What timetable do you think is respectable? There you can't put a timetable on, because everybody is different because I remember after you gave birth and the look on your face was like don't touch me.
Speaker 1Oh, I was good Like. I was good. I remember telling you like if you didn't touch me again I would be, I would be fine with it. I don't still feel that way, I know you remember, but I remember, I remember after I gave birth I literally like look at him and I was like if you don't touch me, I would be perfectly fine with it, because I remember like hey, baby, it's been.
Speaker 2you know, I was like hey, baby, it's been six weeks and I was like you can you can miss me with that.
Speaker 1It's not going to happen. I don't care what the doctor said. I was like it's been six weeks, you know really not interested in what the doctor said and I really have no interest in that.
Speaker 2You know, and then around when you're around, was seven and a half months. We had to stop. I said so. You know, it's been six weeks. I'm like I'm going on for a month. I'm like, hey, yeah.
Speaker 1I was like you want to watch a movie, I can pop up some popcorn, we can hang out.
Speaker 2I was like this this, this hand, with this ocean on it ain't got no sex appeal. That's what I want to do, so but I mean I did, I did extend you the, I did extend you the grace. I didn't.
Speaker 1I appreciate that, but I don't know what the mark was. I know that it was hard for you.
Speaker 2I don't know what the mark was, but at some point I was like look look here.
Speaker 1No, I knew, I knew it wasn't easy for you, but I'm just saying like I can totally understand and relate where she's, where she's like talking about, excuse me, talking about like, feeling like yourself and not having a desire for your mate. I didn't have a desire for, I didn't have a desire for you in that sense, like, of course I wanted to be around you and spend time with you, but as far as like sex, like, I was not on that page.
Speaker 2Right and me I'm looking at you like I don't. You just gave birth to my best friend. I don't need you. I need you for a good day Hi. Like my best friend planning in the crib in there. I don't need to cut them with my best friend that is not it. My best friend.
Speaker 1Your best friend.
Speaker 2Yeah, you've been hating on my daughter. I love her so much. You hate her. Why do I hate on her? Because she be getting away with murdering her, because I can't discipline her, but it's cool.
Speaker 1Okay, you do discipline her.
Speaker 2And it's hard, it hurts me.
Speaker 1Does it hurt you?
Emotional Affair and Trust in Marriage
Speaker 2I'll be crying inside. I hate when I really don't want to be in her.
Speaker 1You don't show that that's interesting. It's funny that he says that it's hard when I see him discipline her.
Speaker 2so it's just like those videos that people post. No, it's because I have to keep a strong face in front of her.
Speaker 1Is that what it is?
Speaker 2But when she leave I'll be like man.
Speaker 1I should have said it like that, because it's like those videos that you see, where it's like when mom disciplines the child or mom yells or something, mom just has to get her point across. Or like discipline the child, like discipline your husband, discipline the child in the same way that you did. Now you feel like mama bear and you got to protect the baby and like don't talk to her.
Speaker 2like that Like relax? This is completely off the topic. I guess we don't anyway. Perfect example Last night when she came upstairs she came to the front of you. I said. I was like hey babe. I said where's your clothes for? When you took a shower I said you might want to go get those for mommy here, I don't want you to get in trouble. She's like oh thanks, dad. She went and she picked them all up at the bathroom and she took it in her room before he came upstairs.
Speaker 1And then you know what she does, and then you know what she does with me.
Speaker 2What.
Speaker 1When I had I think I had told this before when I had went and picked her up from practice and she wanted to go to she calls the noodle restaurant and she wanted to go to eat pha, and I was like no she was like, but don't tell daddy, Don't tell daddy.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1Because daddy, don't tell daddy, it'll be a secret because daddy will say no, yeah. So basically you're teaching her to like play us. No, I'm not Against each other.
Speaker 2Well, she know, when it comes to spending money on daddy, but daddy don't spend money easily.
Speaker 1And then she comes to me. She'll be like mom, don't tell dad, don't tell dad. And she grabs my face like this, with both hands. She grabs my face and that's when I know she's like she went mom, don't tell dad.
Speaker 2She was like. The other week she told me. She said, dad, that's guys great.
Speaker 1Cause she knew I would tell her no ice cream.
Speaker 2So you, want ice cream. Yeah, I said, okay, let's go get ice cream. And I said I got her ice cream and I sent there in the ice cream shop and watch her eat ice cream. And I didn't get it. Of course I didn't get any, so I'm just watching her eat.
Speaker 1Honestly, I don't know what the dynamic would be if we were to have another child, because I think she's so used to it just being her and like having our attention and I don't know what that would look like.
Speaker 2I can't do it with the other I mean she has assured us.
Speaker 1She has assured us that she would be like a perfect big sister oh she has. Like don't think that she has not tried to sell us on becoming a big sister, because she has. She definitely has, and she said that she would be the best big sister. Yeah, but we both call it cap Cap, okay, so here we go. Emotional affair Is it possible. Is it?
Speaker 2possible.
Speaker 1Just looking for advice and to see if anyone has been through this and what was the outcome. So I recently found out that my wife has been a call, texting and snapchatting the single guy for the last six months. On all accounts it's an emotional affair. Only they never told each other that they loved one another, only suggested it in text. She said she only saw him as a friend but was starting to catch feelings. And after talking to him as well, he said there was nothing physical happening, but he did also develop feelings. My wife cut all ties to this man and swears it will never happen again and wants to work on our marriage. I don't know if I can ever trust her again, because she has shown that when she's not happy she's also not loyal and I'm hurt and I want to leave the marriage. But we have three kids together and I don't want to leave my kids. Any advice?
Speaker 2I'll catch her off, my guy, you trippin.
Speaker 1He tripping about what? About how he feels about, about wanting to leave, about wanting to leave, about that being a reason to leave.
Speaker 2And about how she's not loyal. She was loyal to you. She was just communicating with someone else. She just stepped out, but he still constitutes that as an affair? Whatever he's wrong the.
Speaker 1thing is An emotional affair is not a real thing.
Speaker 2No, the thing is is that you need to ask yourself what is it that she was receiving from that guy that she was not receiving from you? Maybe that guy gave her the attention she's been telling you she needs from you for the last whatever time.
Speaker 1Well, of course, because she's making direct communication with it.
Speaker 2Hold on, hold on, hold on, calm down, calm down over here. Okay, maybe that guy is giving her attention because you said you guys have three kids, so I understand. Maybe she felt that guy was making her felt like she was special.
Speaker 1That guy was making her feel like-.
Speaker 2Feel like you're already sorry about that. I see you're making it different Right, feel like she was special, like that's why I make it a point to ever so often let you know that you're still special to me.
Speaker 1Right, because I Just saying the words. Is it just the thing? You know? What are you talking about? No, I'm just saying go ahead, finish, go ahead, finish.
Speaker 2I do more than say the words.
Speaker 1You do you do, but I'm just saying for the listeners.
Speaker 2I take you places. I'm just saying for the listeners. You have to do more than just say the words. I'll come home and rent them flowers, Like stop, stop that cap.
Speaker 1You started buying me flowers that don't die. I appreciate that.
Speaker 2I buy you flowers that don't die to save myself money, because I hate buying you flowers because you don't take care of it. It's not true, but it's like you have to anyway. So you have to look at there was a need there that was being met that you weren't needing. So I understand as a person, I even as a man, as a person, it's hard to understand that you're lacking in some area. But in reality is, if you were all in, 100% there with your wife and providing her everything she needs, that temptation wouldn't have been there. Now, I'm not saying that everything she did was okay or acceptable, but I don't see it as an affair, because I feel like affair is only there once.
Speaker 1All my she acted upon it.
Speaker 2Once things are actable on and lines have been completely crossed.
Speaker 1Okay, so now let me ask you this so you're saying that it wasn't an affair, because they were just communicating via text, Snapchat, whatever. Now what happens if they started meeting up for lunch?
Speaker 2Once a week. That's out of pocket.
Speaker 1Okay, but they still haven't had sex or anything that's out of pocket. Why is that an affair? Because that's a date.
Speaker 2As a single man I mean, I'm sorry, as a married man you'll never catch me anywhere with a woman by myself, unless that woman is, unless I'm related to that woman or I have history with that woman going back at least a decade and a half, like I've had to known you and if I'm with you you best believe my wife knows.
Speaker 1So it's not an affair for them, just talking and insinuating that they have feelings for each other.
Speaker 2But he said they were talking. They didn't say what kind of talking.
Speaker 1They have in text, basically, without saying the direct words, admitted that they both have feelings for each other. So you mean to tell me if I came home to you or if you found out that I have been talking to another man and I've only been talking to him via Snapchat, text message and social media, but in those messages that you have read you have seen that I have developed feelings for him. And then I physically tell you we have not been together, but I do have feelings for him. You mean to tell me you'd be like okay, well, you know, it's still not an affair.
Speaker 2That's not an affair because you have not been with him.
Speaker 1Okay, but you have been, so I can talk.
Speaker 2No, I'm not okay with you talking to him and that capacity, because you're basically courting at that point.
Speaker 1Okay, so then why would? It still be okay for them to talk and not meet up for like.
Speaker 2So it's not, it's not at first of all. At first of all, it's not okay for them to talk about things of that matter, right?
Speaker 1It's not okay for her. He's single.
Speaker 2Well, he's single for her right, and it's not okay for a married person to be out anywhere with a single person, especially if you know that single person is infactuated or has feelings towards you. Right, that is my stance, but I don't see it as an affair because she-.
Speaker 1Emotional affair, not just affair, emotional affair.
Speaker 2Okay, I don't see it as an emotional affair, because emotions change. Emotions are like when or like the when, and she probably only felt this way because, like I said, because this guy was giving her attention, it's just because it was exciting, exactly, and she's not getting the excitement in the marriage, so it's like almost like the 80s, like the 80-20 rule, where the 20% that you find outside of your marriage starts to look like it could be 80, but it's really not.
Speaker 1It's just because you haven't basically watered your own grass, and I think the longer that people are in relationship with each other, the longer we're married. It's easy, like the last one said about being bored it's easy to get quote unquote bored be like there's no excitement.
Speaker 2We have been together 23 years.
Speaker 1And also, to top that off, let's be real, we're all still human beings. It's also nice to get attention from the opposite sex and people other than your partner.
Speaker 2It's nice to know you still got it.
Speaker 1It's nice to know like oh my gosh, you don't see me as, just like wife and mom. You see me as me and we can have conversation.
Speaker 2I'm gonna kiss our ass to you.
Speaker 1We can have conversation where I'm not like a wife and a mother. I can have a conversation like it's me and I'm a human being and you appreciate that and you appreciate me. That can be exciting. That can be intoxicating.
Speaker 2Oh, no, it is.
Speaker 1Okay, so like, but what I'm saying is by you still entertaining it and by you even just having the conversations and how the conversations are making you feel, I kind of agree with him that that can be an emotional affair.
Speaker 2It is what it is, Pimp.
Speaker 1Wow, it is what it is.
Speaker 2It is what it is. It is what it is. I can't with you. It is what it is. I can't Because I mean we disagree, that's all I can say we disagree.
Speaker 1I don't think. I don't think, I think we I guess we do disagree, because I don't understand how I don't feel like the line's been crossed. How not?
Speaker 2I don't feel like she hasn't given her heart to this man.
Speaker 1Obviously some of her heart is with this man. She said that she has an emotional connection, that she's had feelings.
Speaker 2I have an emotional connection to Cheesecake.
Speaker 1Bye DeMail, I'm not doing this with you.
Speaker 2That don't mean I'm not eating too much of a bar.
Speaker 1You know what I'm saying? No, I don't.
Speaker 2You know what I'm saying I don't. It's like.
Speaker 2I don't know. I feel like when you've been together for a while, like we've been together 23 years, I understand, I can, I know that there's been times where we've both been bored. I can understand that if the effort's not being put in, then yeah, you know, and you start getting attention from outside. It can be exciting and you can, you might engage or within the conversation or whatever the case may be. But I always also feel like, as long as that line isn't crossed where, like I'm not going on dates, I don't care if they're just lunch dates, I'm not going to get coffee, nothing like that Like I feel like I don't me personally, I don't deem that cheating, I don't know fair.
Speaker 1Y'all, let us know what you think that's interesting she wild on her, I'm not, but okay, that's fine. Okay, okay, next one.
Speaker 2Last one you changed.
Speaker 1All I said is that I can agree with him. You changed that's all I said. I said that I can agree with him. I didn't say that. You know like, I just said that I could agree with him, okay you changed? Anywho, like I said, I mean it's inevitable, aren't we all cheating?
Speaker 2No, yes, Go next one. Yes, go next one.
Speaker 1Okay, next one and last one. You're gonna like this one.
Speaker 2Is it messy?
Menopause and Increased Sexual Activity
Speaker 1You're gonna like this one. Okay, go ahead and read it Ready. Yeah, my wife is in premenopause and has turned into a sex freak.
Speaker 2Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, my guy, you've made it. You've made it, you win you win.
Speaker 1My wife and I have been together for 20 years. She was 24 when I met her and a virgin, and I'm the only person that she's ever slept with. If she was a virgin 24,.
Speaker 2A shout out to her.
Speaker 1She's always been, I'll say, conservative in the bedroom, very vanilla. We've had sex two to three times a week on average, nothing extra. She's never been into giving or receiving oral, which is always a disappointment In caps. Things have changed. She started premenopause in the summer and since then she's been hypersexual. She wants to do it every day, twice a day. She's buying lingerie cinema, racy pictures, talking dirty during sex, saying things that would even make a sailor blush. And the recent thing is that she started performing oral and has told me she's been looking at videos to get better practice. This was shocking for two reasons. One, she admitted to watching porn and two, she's been giving unpromptu attention to me. It's like I'm living and married to a different woman, and the one that I've known for 20 years is no longer there. Is this a normal part of menopause?
Speaker 2I don't see why you complain it. I don't see the problem here, sir.
Speaker 1You're still waiting for the problem. What's the problem here? I don't get it. Okay, wait a minute. I just want to go back to the part where he said that their normal was two to three times a week. He said nothing extra. You know how many people I talk to who are not having sex three times a week?
Speaker 2Look here, man, she wanted twice a day.
Speaker 1Twice a day. Every day he has to work.
Speaker 2In all fairness, he has to work. Keep a red bull or some coffee next to your bed. If you got to get you some blue pills to help, you say, hey, whatever you got to do to keep this energy, keep it Inpromptu. Oral.
Speaker 1Sir, what are you complaining about? I mean, I don't you know, I'm with you. Have your wife call my wife Really.
Speaker 2Really, I'm gonna throw the phone at you, meekha, twice a day. You wouldn't even be home. Hey, that means, if you you wouldn't even be home.
Speaker 1Tell me during the week, every day, how, how you work 13 hours a day.
Speaker 2I know it would be hard. Hey, I know for us it's difficult schedules, but they got the time I had to. Sir, if I had the time twice a day, that's a good morning and a good night.
Speaker 1Sir, don't let him cap you. That's a good morning and a good night. Let me get close to the microphone.
Speaker 2That's a good morning and a good night.
Speaker 1Sir, don't let my husband cap you. What did you want to say? Don't let my husband cap you because Go ahead and lie. He couldn't even go seven days in a row.
Speaker 2I was tired.
Speaker 1You hear that he couldn't even go seven days in a row, can you?
Speaker 2Let me say this.
Speaker 1I'm going to address that. What did you just say we did?
Speaker 2the seven day challenge. We're supposed to do it seven days in a row. The problem is by day five.
Speaker 1It wasn't day five.
Speaker 2It was like day four or five.
Speaker 1It was like night number three.
Speaker 2It was like day four. It felt like. It felt almost like a goddamn chore.
Speaker 1No, it didn't. He's a lie, he is an absolute.
Speaker 2Listen here.
Speaker 1This is something that my husband would do. When he knows that I have a point, he has to try to downgrade it as much as possible. He was having the time of his life and I was pulling out stops. I didn't give him first-year for amazing I was pulling out stops to make sure that he was tuned in and tapped on and engaged. He just couldn't keep up. That's what it was by night. Four Hold on, keep up. You were staying in the course of making sure we committed and stuck to the goal.
Speaker 2Don't act like we don't get started. I'm not saying keep up.
Speaker 1I'm talking about. I am talking about making sure it hit the goal of seven days. He had to know it wasn't he had to tap out Even, do not even Let this man sit up here and cap you like that.
Speaker 2What I tell you, though. I don't need seven days a week If I get a good four days.
Speaker 1I'm good he didn't even make it to four, though I didn't say four in a row. I said four out of seven Demel Even slaves got breaks?
Speaker 2No, they didn't.
Speaker 1Let me tell you, my husband's default is tired. Okay, His default is tired. For a prime example, my daughter. When he came home from work, my daughter was like dad, how was work? I tell him, before he could even get it out of his mouth, I said it was rough. He said it was rough. I said Phoenix daddy is always going to have the same response. It was rough, it was a tough day, or he's tired.
Speaker 2You're awesome haters. You should applaud the fact that I'm consistent.
Speaker 1You're consistent in what you say too. That's how you know I'm not lying. So any who may not let my husband cap you.
Speaker 2But in any case I do agree with my husband. I said it was worth. What are you complaining about? It was worth. What the hell are you complaining about? I do agree with my husband. Your wife called my wife?
Speaker 1No, don't have her call me there. Ain't nothing she can help me with. I'm talking about the impromptu aura, ain't nothing she can help me with, just random. Ain't nothing she can help me with. You know how long it's been since you did that. Excuse me.
Speaker 2The impromptu.
Speaker 1Demel cut it out Impromptu. This has been another episode. Hold on, hold on. No, no, don't cut it short because you want to end hot water. This, I'm not in no hot water.
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